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Re: Be a Better Writer--A FEW LOOSE ENDS

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:03 pm
by swfdoc1
WriterFearNot wrote:Question: is there a way to get straight to the readability statistics? It seems like I have to go through the entire spell check process before the score chart pops up, and that could become tedious for a long document.

Theresa
Unfortunately, not that I am aware of. Someone else here may know. Also, there may be plug-ins available that would do that but I've never looked for one.

Re: Be a Better Writer--A FEW LOOSE ENDS

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:39 pm
by Shann
Thanks for that information on Word, Steve. I have never seen it, and I'm eager to try it out. I'm especially excited by the reading grade level because my favorite genre is children's books. The experts encourage writers to keep sentence length under 11 words with shorter paragraphs too. Of course it can vary if writing for a three-year-old nonreader or an eight-year-old middle reader.

I'm thinking this tool will come in handy, not only with my writing, but with my editing as well.

Re: Be a Better Writer--A FEW LOOSE ENDS

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:07 pm
by glorybee
Just don't get too hooked on it. As Steve said, it makes mistakes, just as spell-check and grammar-check programs make mistakes. It's interesting and somewhat useful, but it's no substitute for actual knowledge. More importantly, it can't take art or writer's intuition into account, nor can it allow for deliberate breaking of the rules as in the past few lessons here. I wouldn't want anyone to start feeling as if they had to adjust their writing to a specific reading level or # of words per sentence or sentences per paragraph in order to meet some perceived criterion of this little tool. It's just that--one tool among many.

Certainly if you're writing a children's book, and this says you're writing at 10th grade level, you'll want to do some adjustment. Conversely, if you're writing a Bible study for mature Christians and your grade level shows up as 2.1, there may be a problem.

Re: Be a Better Writer--A FEW LOOSE ENDS

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:28 pm
by Shann
I totally understand and would use it as a guide for those times when I feel something is off but can't quite figure it out. :D

Re: Be a Better Writer--A FEW LOOSE ENDS

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 6:27 pm
by swfdoc1
I agree with Jan about the reading level--I virtually never pay attention to it. I do pay a lot of attention to the number of words per sentence. The average numbers that I mentioned, I've seen for LOTS of types of writing. However, never for children's book or for passages with lots of dialog.

Re: Be a Better Writer--A FEW LOOSE ENDS

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:02 pm
by oursilverstrands
Jan wrote:That's still not quite what's happening in my story, though.
Ah! I think the light dawns. It's the story, stupid (Lillian). You have to have some inkling of the narrative because that will determine the words. :roll:

I suppose I should look no further than my "signature" quote by Flaherty that echoes Mark Twain's words..."Scrutinize them...until you see their subtle differences."

Lillian

Re: Be a Better Writer--A FEW LOOSE ENDS

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:06 pm
by glorybee
lish1936 wrote:
Jan wrote:I suppose I should look no further than my "signature" quote by Flaherty that echoes Mark Twain's words..."Scrutinize them...until you see their subtle differences."

Lillian
Exactly! Great quote, by the way.

Re: Be a Better Writer--A FEW LOOSE ENDS

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:48 am
by RachelM
I love your advice for adverb and adjective use. It's so sensible! You have a gift for making the light bulb come on in my brain, Jan! :idea:

Re: Be a Better Writer--A FEW LOOSE ENDS

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:36 pm
by swfdoc1
How NOT to get rid of adverbs explained here. Scroll down to "Justice Kennedy and Ernest Hemingway."

Re: Be a Better Writer--A FEW LOOSE ENDS

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:05 pm
by glorybee
Thanks for the link, Steve. I never thought I'd find legal reading interesting! (I am a bear of very little brain.)