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by swfdoc1
Tue May 19, 2015 12:50 pm
Forum: Jan's Writing Basics
Topic: Be a Better Writer--SLANT RHYME
Replies: 19
Views: 8958

Re: Be a Better Writer--SLANT RHYME

I think we just fundamentally disagree about perfect meter. You think it makes for great poetry. I think it makes for second-tier poetry (out of the three tiers explained in the link in my earlier post to the book Poetic Meter and Poetic Form ), with a few VERY rare exceptions (such as Robert Frost’...
by swfdoc1
Mon May 18, 2015 8:26 pm
Forum: Jan's Writing Basics
Topic: Be a Better Writer--SLANT RHYME
Replies: 19
Views: 8958

Re: Be a Better Writer--SLANT RHYME

Great poem! No wonder it was published! But . . . I don't think either the rhyme or the meter are perfect--which for me is a good thing (for meter and neutral for rhyme). The rhyme issue may be a matter of opinion. Some people don't consider singulars and plurals that otherwise rhyme to be slant rhy...
by swfdoc1
Mon May 18, 2015 7:06 pm
Forum: Jan's Writing Basics
Topic: Be a Better Writer--SLANT RHYME
Replies: 19
Views: 8958

Re: Be a Better Writer--SLANT RHYME

Congrats on getting published! Is it available on line?
by swfdoc1
Mon May 18, 2015 6:36 pm
Forum: Jan's Writing Basics
Topic: Be a Better Writer--SLANT RHYME
Replies: 19
Views: 8958

Re: Be a Better Writer--SLANT RHYME

But the standards for publishable rhymed poetry seem so high. The editors of Mused Literary Review , describe the perfect rhymed poem as a "finished, polished granite sculpture". They describe any flaw or bump as a "lovely sculpture that has a giant pink band-aid stuck on its nose". No tolerance fo...
by swfdoc1
Sun May 17, 2015 4:18 pm
Forum: Jan's Writing Basics
Topic: Be a Better Writer--SLANT RHYME
Replies: 19
Views: 8958

Re: Be a Better Writer--SLANT RHYME

glorybee wrote:
swfdoc1 wrote:When I'm old, I hope to become a better poet.
Me too!
by swfdoc1
Sun May 17, 2015 4:08 pm
Forum: Jan's Writing Basics
Topic: Be a Better Writer--SLANT RHYME
Replies: 19
Views: 8958

Re: Be a Better Writer--SLANT RHYME

I am of the school that all good metered poetry OUGHT to vary its meter to be excellent. In defense of this view, you can go to Amazon, search for “Poetic Meter and Poetic Form,” click on the “search Inside” book cover, and type “meter probably began” in the search box. This will take you to the fir...
by swfdoc1
Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:31 am
Forum: Jan's Writing Basics
Topic: Be a Better Writer--SO MANY WRITING TIPS
Replies: 19
Views: 10522

Re: Be a Better Writer--SO MANY WRITING TIPS

Jan, I hope you don’t mind my jumping in. The issue you are addressing is called “elegant variation.” It is one of the mysteries of pseudo-experts’ advice as to how this phenomenon came to be considered a good thing. As this (trustworthy, believe it or not) Wikipedia article explains, “elegant varia...
by swfdoc1
Sat Feb 28, 2015 11:21 pm
Forum: Ann's Grammar Basics
Topic: Commas (Part One)
Replies: 20
Views: 19048

Re: Commas (Part One)

Yes, Lillian, what you wrote in your last post simplifies parts of what I said, except that the comma is better changed to a semi-colon.

Jan, which part(s) do you disagree with?
by swfdoc1
Sat Feb 28, 2015 6:23 pm
Forum: Ann's Grammar Basics
Topic: Commas (Part One)
Replies: 20
Views: 19048

Re: Commas (Part One)

I don’t think we’ve quite hit the nail on the head yet. The point is that there should be a comma BEFORE “and” as both Ashley and Jan wrote. And the reason is as Ashley stated: it joins two complete sentences (aka independent clauses). However, the second independent clause starts with an introducto...
by swfdoc1
Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:37 pm
Forum: Jan's Writing Basics
Topic: Be a Better Writer--Description (Kind Of)
Replies: 21
Views: 13839

Re: Be a Better Writer--Description (Kind Of)

Three adjectives. No adverbs. But if you count adjectives, adjective phrases, adjective clauses (the latter 2 of which serve as adjectives), adverbs, adverb phrases, and adverb clauses (the latter 2 of which serve as adverbs); you get a very different picture. Especially if you count some that are ...
by swfdoc1
Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:47 pm
Forum: Jan's Writing Basics
Topic: Be a Better Writer--AVOID THESE COMMON ERRORS
Replies: 18
Views: 17650

Re: Be a Better Writer--AVOID THESE COMMON ERRORS

swfdoc1 wrote:Actually, as I think about it, I'm pretty sure the "job and title" thing happened to someone else. I've done so much editing and been edited so many times, it all starts to blur.
Yep, someone else, per here (scroll down to my second post on the page and following).
by swfdoc1
Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:14 pm
Forum: Jan's Writing Basics
Topic: Be a Better Writer--AVOID THESE COMMON ERRORS
Replies: 18
Views: 17650

Re: Be a Better Writer--AVOID THESE COMMON ERRORS

Actually, as I think about it, I'm pretty sure the "job and title" thing happened to someone else. I've done so much editing and been edited so many times, it all starts to blur. (I think the reason my mind played this trick on me is because I had an interest in the mistake because of quite a back-a...
by swfdoc1
Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:35 pm
Forum: Jan's Writing Basics
Topic: Be a Better Writer--AVOID THESE COMMON ERRORS
Replies: 18
Views: 17650

Re: Be a Better Writer--AVOID THESE COMMON ERRORS

I once had a biblically illiterate editor change “every jot and tittle” to “every job and title,” whatever that was supposed to mean. I also had the same editor change the idiom “best lights” (as in, e.g., “proceed according to your best lights”)to the completely different idiom “best light” (as in,...
by swfdoc1
Wed Jan 07, 2015 6:28 pm
Forum: Jan's Writing Basics
Topic: Be a Better Writer -- GENDER NEUTRAL LANGUAGE
Replies: 30
Views: 13242

Re: Be a Better Writer -- GENDER NEUTRAL LANGUAGE

Jan, You're right that I've looked at this issue on several occasions and have some thoughts. Unfortunately (or fortunately :D), time does not permit me to address the issue, either here or in a new thread. Your links (and links within the links) address the issue from both pro and con points of vie...
by swfdoc1
Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:51 am
Forum: Jan's Writing Basics
Topic: Be a Better Writer -- GENDER NEUTRAL LANGUAGE
Replies: 30
Views: 13242

Re: Be a Better Writer -- GENDER NEUTRAL LANGUAGE

Yes, I know you're “being a pill.” I appreciate your humor. As you and I know, but as your new students and perhaps even some of your long-term students may not know; you and I have a long-standing friendship, and I have a long-standing propensity to go too deep in my comments about your lessons. To...

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